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Trump’s GOP tax cuts suddenly don’t seem to sell so good?…Open Thread for May 2, 2018…

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Remember the Republican bums rush to get a tax cut (giveaway) bill passed at the end of last year?

Oh, it was gonna help Americans save money….

Oh, in was gonna be the signature act to help Republicans in the midterm elections !….

Nope….

Slowly we have begun to see REPUBLICAN’S acknowledge that the tax cut REALLY isn’t one at all….

That in fact polling shows there has been little American’s see for the effort…. 

That while there ARE media reports of big business ALREADY saving hundreds of milliomns on their upcoming 2018 taxes….

Over the past 48 hours, key figures in the party have uttered head-scratching statements about the tax cuts bill that will be millstones for those Republicans fighting for their political lives in the midterm elections.

President Trump’s former Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price, forced to resign last year after racking up $400,000 in travel bills, said that repealing ObamaCare’s individual mandate – an act the GOP achieved in its December tax bill – “drives up the cost for others in the market.”

“We couldn’t have said it better ourselves.” – Matt House, spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.).

“Price just exposed every single GOP Senate candidate.” – Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee Communications Director Lauren Passalacqua.

A day earlier, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said there’s “no evidence whatsoever” that the GOP’s corporate tax cuts are helping workers, undermining the cornerstone of the party’s electoral strategy this cycle.

“It’s disappointing to see Marco Rubio echo some of the false rhetoric of tax reform opponents and we hope he clarifies his remarks.” – Brent Gardner of Americans for Prosperity, which is spending tens of millions of dollars to sell the tax reform plan and protect the Republicans who supported it.

Polls show the public has been slow to warm to the tax cuts bill. The comments from Price and Rubio – and previous remarks from retiring Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) – make the sales campaign more difficult.

The landscape was already bad for Republicans. Democrats have the advantage in essentially every metric, from grassroots energy to the generic ballot. Republicans increasingly concede privately that their House majority seems a lost cause.

There were plenty of intraparty fissures within the GOP before the messaging fiasco of the last few days but until recently, all Republicans agreed they should stake their electoral hopes on the benefits of tax reform for the economy. Now?….

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  2. Democrats thought that Obamacare (the Affordable Care Act) would pull them through 2010 and beyond, but at least until last year, it proved to be a net disadvantage in purely electoral terms.

  3. Massive tax cuts without some associated spending cuts during times with both a low unemployment and a large existing deficit only make sense if you believe in the Greece model. But Greece’s stagnant stock market shows that model is a total failure.

    While CG and Trumpists believe you can borrow your way to prosperity, the historical data from other countries shows otherwise.

      • Again…

        Cuts where NOT on the table with the need for Democrats for a budget deal…

        • You are not reading from your party’s playbook.

          no estás leyendo el libro de jugadas de tu grupo

      • You supported the bill and the bill did not cut $1 of spending. Only people who believe in the powers of massive government spending could support the bill.

        And by the way, Republicans INCREASED spending by a greater percentage this budget than was approved during any year under Obama. Nothing but silence from you.

        • Oh, so Republicans are not Draconian slashers who want to end the social safety net?

          I guess that’s a new tactic.

          • Scott tends to say otherwise, so maybe I have to figure out who has the correct facts…

          • Republicans are always better at talking about cutting spending in the abstract than actually doing it.

          • Under Trump, I don’t see the safety net being cut. If it was going to happen, it would have already been seriously proposed.

        • Which “bill” are we even talking about? It’s not like I have an actual vote or anything.

          I reached the conclusion that the tax reform bill was good legislation. That does not have anything to do with spending levels. Months later, Congress voted on the budget thing, and I opposed that.

              • Funny…

                First you attack the Republican tax cut as leading to what you describe as an “irresponsible “budget increase.I,in fact, agree with that sentiment.

                Then, you incongruously “thank” Zreebs for posting a news report as to the above and hail it as “the art of compromise.”

                If that be so?We could use less “compromise.”

                The country would have been better off without the fruits of this compromise,an unneeded tax cut and more spending.

                • Ok…

                  I see it’s counter morning eh, Jack? (You DO promise me that, eh?)

                  I thank Z for the link….

                  I have been selling the fact that despite all the running around by the media talking heads that COMPROMISE IS what the American political system does…

                  The budget is a prime example….

                  No cuts to the arts, or entitlements…

                  The IRS gets MORE money…

                  And so on…

                  There ARE those running the place that are very mindful that new election bring different power centers and that
                  even with a knucklehead party leader?

                  They do what is best FOR themselves…

                  Been preaching THIS for years as you do you counter argument here…

                  Role playing sometimes between you and me….

                  Makes doing this gratifying for this ole dog….

                  • Former Vice President Joe Biden visited Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) at his Arizona ranch earlier this week as the senator is recovering from his brain cancer treatment and surgery for an infection, the Associated Press reported Saturday…..

                    The Hill…

                  • Once again, an irrelevant response to my point.

                    All your “concern” is over the process itself ,even when the result of the process was antithetical to your opinion as to the issues involved.

                    Unsurprising.

                    Now as to this goofy “role” rigamarole you toss it occasionally?I presume that all those who respond to your posts occupy the same exalted position?If such be so?Apparently all of us are “role playing” here.

                    Who knew?

                    • I stand by the points I have continually made about compromise and the fact that even though GOP lawmakers get up and kiss Trump’s ass in public….

                      In the process of lawmaking?…..

                      They have gone their own way more than once in defiance of what Trump has wanted…

                    • James, please give us an example of an issue that the Republicans in Congress have “compromised” on that runs counter to something Trump wanted or wants? And, please, budget resolutions don’t count because Trump has never read one and doesn’t understand what is in them.

                    • No cuts in entitlements….

                      No cuts in the Arts programs…

                      Increase spending for the IRS…..

                      Severe limititations in Immigration spending, including Trump’s Wall….

                      Oh, Snap?

                      How many is that?

                    • And OF COURSE I’m naming the budget that TRUMP HIMSELF presented to the Congress and Nation even if you’re right he probably didn’t read the damn thing….

                      It’s his….

                      He signed off on it and it has his signature on the the request….

    • Republicans and Trump NEVER considered deficits….

      The tax cut was seen purely as a POLITICAL move….

      That’s ALL….

  4. That Doctor ,who issued that glowing report on Trumps health at the beginning of his term ,now claims that Trump himself wrote the report ,or had it written ,and that he had nothing to do with it.

    • The doctor note thing would have gotten Obama or Clinton in trouble

      With Trump?
      It’s just a hiccup, eh?

      • Obama would have just said he barely knew the doctor, did not pay attention during visits, and cannot be held responsible. Just like he did about his minister.

            • Donald Trump isn’t having a good time so far this week….His barnd it taking several hits, eh?

              via twitter….

              David Fahrenthold
              @Fahrenthold
              David Fahrenthold Retweeted David Fahrenthold
              BREAKING: NYC judge rules against @realdonaldtrump’s company, says NYC bldg called “Trump Place” has right to take down its signs.

  5. Rumor is White House Chaplain Conroy is taking back his resignation from Speaker Ryan….

      • How petty can you get?

        All because a Right Wing ideologue like Ryan doesn’t like a prayer?

        • C,mom Jack it was a prayer for the poor and how we shouldn’t leave them behind.

          • California U.S. Senate candidate Patrick Little (R) — who last week topped other Republican Senate candidates in a SurveyUSA poll — told Newsweek “that he admires Adolf Hitler, and would prefer to see Jewish Americans deported to Israel.”

            “He falsely denied that the genocide of Jews took place during World War II and incorrectly suggested that Germany was not an aggressor during that conflict.”

            Politicalwire….

            • “The Missouri General Assembly has taken the historic step of calling itself back into special session to decide whether to impeach Gov. Eric Greitens (R),” the Kansas City Star reports…

              …
              St. Louis Post-Dispatch: “The unprecedented move comes a day after the House released a second scathing report on the governor and sets the state for the special session to start during the governor’s trial on felony invasion of privacy charges related to an extramarital affair he had in 2015.”

              Politicalwire…

            • Good, once Republicans in California hear who this idiot is, they won’t vote for him.

              Nobody has any idea who any of the 10 Republican candidates there are, but now they will vote for someone else instead of someone who has a name that reminds them of a cartoon mouse.

      • Morning….

        Bringing Rudy on board has certainly liven things up for the Trump Show….

  6. Finally, an even-tempered justification for evangelical support for Donald Trump — it’s all (at least for the non-bigots) about policy, not the President’s personal morality.

    Rev. Samuel Rodriguez of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, who has consulted with (but not always agreed with) Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump appears to be straightforward, and not one to arouse immediate suspicion like Revs. Franklin Graham, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, Jr.

    William Brangham (PBS News Hour):

    So, the president was here for National Prayer Day. He met with many leaders of the faith community. You are in that inner circle.

    As we were saying before, the president has enormous support among the evangelical community. And I wonder if you could just help me understand, where does that support come from?

    Rev. Samuel Rodriguez:

    Public policy.

    Evangelicals experienced or felt that, in the past number of years, the past 10 years, issues of religious liberty, issues of advancing their Judeo-Christian value systems stood in a de facto and du jour manner, for that fact, threatened.

    Sisters of the Poor, Hobby Lobby, Supreme Court cases that to evangelicals infringed their ability to advance the Gospel of Jesus. So, all of a sudden, we have President Donald Trump, and the public policy initiatives as it pertains to faith is much more favorable to the evangelical community indeed.

    William Brangham :

    There’s many things on that one side of the ledger that would seem to alienate him from the evangelical community, three marriages, accusations of adultery, bragging about sexual assaults.

    You’re arguing that the policy side of the ledger is enough to make people think that things don’t matter as much?

    Rev. Samuel Rodriguez:

    No, I don’t think it’s ever to a point where it doesn’t matter.

    I think it comes to the point where we don’t want to write anyone off. You don’t want to write off access to a president who can impact religious liberty, who can impact the sanctity of life. So it’s a matter of balancing these narratives in a way where we never sacrifice truth on the altar of expediency, but we likewise support policies that reflect our Judeo-Christian value system.

    ….

    Full Transcript and video at https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/evangelicals-keep-faith-in-trump-to-advance-religious-agenda

    • This still doesn’t explain to my satisfaction why those cases affect religious freedom. Okay, so the Sisters of the Poor genuinely believe that birth control is morally wrong. I intensely believe the opposite. Birth control is critical in an overpopulated world in which our current lifestyle is obviously unsustainable over many more generations. No one is forcing or even encouraging the Sisters of the Poor to use birth control. But they were obviously trying to make it more difficult to use birth control. Unwanted pregnancies are a real cost to society and the Sisters of the Poor should not be asking the rest of us to incur that moral or financial cost. I am personally morally opposed to some of our military activities over the pas few decades. That doesn’t mean that I shouldn’t be forced to pay for them along with everyone else,

  7. 542 days, or 77 weeks & 3 day(s) since Election Day, 2016
    486 days, or 69 weeks & 3 day(s) since the 115th Congress began
    469 days, or 67 weeks & 0 day(s) since Inauguration Day, 2017
    TODAY
    186 days, or 26 weeks & 4 day(s) until Election Day, 2018
    244 days, or 34 weeks & 6 day(s) until the 116th Congress sits
    914 days, or 130 weeks & 4 day(s) until Election Day, 2020
    992 days, or 141 weeks & 5 day(s) until Inauguration Day, 2021

  8. MittBot Strikes Again!
    From Politicalwire:

    “My favorite meat is hot dog by the way. That is my favorite meat. My second favorite meat is hamburger. Everyone says oh don’t you prefer steak. It’s like I know steaks are great but I like hot dog best and I like hamburger second best”

    • Romney always was willing to say whatever was needed to his GOP base. Recall how he would shoot vermin. I wonder if he likes vegetables like ketchup on his hot dog meat?

      By the way, his actual quote was that he likes hamburgers “next best”.

  9. Oh Shit!
    Hot story coming up about the NYS AG Eric Schneiderman..

    Whew!

    Game changer!

  10. Thoughts, will this guy Avenatti be the Trump Buster…the most recent report of AT&T giving money to Michael Cohen ain’t good for the Orange Man…That is a big problem, especially if it is true they are cosigning on the fact that they sent him money.

  11. Bruins forward Brad Marchand has been told by the NHL that he should discontinue licking his opponents. He hasn’t yet been penalized for doing so. There are penalties for slashing, tripping and high sticking, but none for licking.

      • Breaking….

        AP Politics
        ‏@AP_Politics
        BREAKING: Trump says Pompeo is returning from North Korea with 3 American detainees, who ‘seem to be in good health’ .

        Roll Call….

        • Trump takes credit on this development….

          But doesn’t seem to thank the North Koreans for doing something they shouldn’t have in the first place?

  12. The results are in – and they are conclusive. There was debate in the Insurance Industry as to whether ACA would raise or reduce Workers Compensation Costs. Some felt it would raise costs because it would raise the demand for doctors and therefore the costs. Others felt it would reduce costs because of the availability of preventative care. A recent study looked at those states that had Medicaid expansion and those states that did not, and the worker compensation loss experience improved much greater in the states with Medicaid expansion. So the debate is now largely over. The ACA has reduced workers compensation costs.

    • And your conclusion is why Republican RED states have asked and done EXPANISON of the Obamacare program….

      Anybody hear any mentions of Obamacre ‘repealing’/

    • I’m excited to report that I will be heading to Orlando on Wednesday for a major workers compensation conference. This is often the only chance I get to hook up with workers compensation leaders that I used to work with. I’ll be there from Wednesday through Friday. The guest speaker this year is Colin Powell.

      • Hi, Zreebs, I know that it’s hard to get away from the bubble of national conferences (even ones for political activists and organizers), and this must be especially true inside or around The Magic Kingdom.

        But, since Orange County seems to be a Democratic bastion in North Florida (e.g. 330,000 Clinton to 195,000 Trump; 274,000 Obama to 189,000 Romney), I’m sure that everyone here would be interested in whatever field report(s) you might be able to provide. Sunlover and other Floridians have not followed Politics1 into this site.

        • I will seek out native Orange County residents (they are the ones with the colorful clothing and light blue or orange cars) and ask them if they believe that Israel has a right to exist and if they support the divestiture movement from Israel.

          • You might also tactfully probe if they think Sen. Nelson (Bill) or Sen. Scott (Rick) {and for that matter PM Netanyahu or MK Livni] more likely and able to further their views.

            • And what about your interpreter and driver ?

              After all, they’ll still be living in the Kingdom of the Mouse long after you’ve packed up your equipment en route to picking up your Pulitzer. We certainly can’t trust this Administration or Congress to offer or grant them safe asylum.

  13. Believe it or not, I still haven’t heard when and where I am supposed to pick up my Pulitzer, nor do I even know how and when I will be contacted. I would like to have an appointment with my manicurist before I make my entrance, but my manicurist is wanting extra pay to be on call. He just doesn’t seem to recognize how and why a memorable entrance from me would also benefit him. It is all very frustrating, but thank you for your support.

  14. It will be on the evening news between Wednesday and Friday – not sure which day so you will probably want to record each day.

      • So will that be on the REAL breaking news (as reported, for example, by Polly Dog 101) or the Fake News ?

        No doubt the Disney-owned ABC News and Good Morning America will try to cover up your shattering exposé with tissue-thin glamour shots of some royal wedding somewhere off the coast of Europe.

  16. Pelosi will try modify last years GOP passed tax cut/give away if the Dem’s get the House,...

    ….
    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that if Democrats take control of the House in November and she’s elected as their leader, she will seek to revise the GOP’s tax cut bill to reverse its estimated $1.9 trillion increase to federal budget deficits….

    Bloomberg,…

  17. Fucked Up….

    ….from Jim Acosta via twitter

    A WH official confirms WH aide Kelly Sadler mocked John McCain’s cancer diagnosis saying “he’s dying anyway” in response to his opposition to Haspel nomination. The “joke… fell flat” the official said.

  18. Via twitter….

    WNYC
    @wnyc

    Almost a year after his original conviction was overturned, former NY State Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver was found guilty on all counts at his corruption retrial.

  19. Since you won’t read it here,where Trumps support among Republicans is claimed to be eroding daily,

    Political Wire reports that Democrats are concerned about Trumps improving approval ratings and indications from primary turnouts that the Republican base,ie, Trump supporters ,are in fact mobilized.

    All you read here is a cheerleader waving pom poms for a”blue wave” when there is simply no hard evidence that such is happening.

    • Depending on how you define “blue wave”, of course there is some evidence. Democrats are voting in special elections, and from everything I have seen, they are more mobilized than Republicans. The Democratic candidates are pretty good. I think everyone largely agrees that the Dems will pick up some seats – at least in the House. It is just a matter of how many. Will it be enough to win the Senate or House? Maybe – A lot will depend on what happens in the next few months.

      If you define a blue wave as the Democrats will pick up seats, then of course there is a blue wave on the horizon. Far from certain that it will be enough to overtake either House.

  20. This is a particularly poor moment to predict either a blue wave or a blue trickle, because so much is still to unfold over the next month or two.

    What will happen in Singapore on June 12th ? And what will happen afterwards ?

    The Middle East is (as usual) a whole constellation of uncertainties:
    What will happen in Gaza, Palestine and Israel over the next week or two ? How will things look in the Syrian semi-civil war a month or two from now ? What about the Yemen ? Qatar ? Lebanon ? ¶ And will the West be able to patch up some kind of consensus on Iran, or will the rest of the Big Five + 1 (UK, France, China & Russia + Germany, the U.N. and the E.U.) continue along the former track while the U.S. is off the rails ? Plus, what will be the consequences on Iranian diplomacy and domestic politics of whatever transpires ?

    The net-net result on each party’s election prospects next November could vary wildly (even ignoring all the vagaries of domestic politics and the economy). Trump could end up looking almost Nobel Prizeworthy or the worst disaster that national security has ever suffered (e.g. a combination of George W. Bush and Neville Chamberlain). And the effect further down ballot is at this point anyone’s guess.

    • Of course as people here tend to say here Jack is Right?

      That’s why Ryan and McConnell and TRump have been telling their people to be AFRAID of the Democrats winning the House almost for sure and haviung a outside chance of getting the Senate….

      But yea….

      There is NO evidence that a ‘Blue Wave’ could be forming?

      You might want to check this out from Red State though…..

      • BTW?

        Politicans PREDICT and LIVE on polling and looks at trends and forecasts ….

        Just because Donald Trump managed to get a win isn’t gonna stop them…..

      • What did anything I post have anything to do with me being” right?”

        I merely posted a clip from Political Wire and yes you have been heralding a “ blue wave” for months now.

        This past weekend you even claimed that a “ blue wave” might help force Trumps resignation .

        • He, he, he
          Damn REAL I hope a wave can facilitate the quicker packing of his bags and vacating the WH!

          • I can tell you all that whether they should be or not, after last week, the “pro-Trump” crowd is downright giddy about 2018. Maybe it is because they now think it might not be as bad as many have predicted or feared.

            Of course, there are tribal cheerleaders on both sides who are refusing to recognize the reality of a very divided country politically and who are far more apt to think that just about everyone thinks like they do.

  21. Israeli troops have killed 41 Palestinians and wounded hundreds more in protests of the US embassy move. No doubt everyone here will continue to be silent (or maybe even slightly supportive) about the Israeli atrocities as you have been for years. Pdog participants seem to me to be only willing to express outrage if the dead were black or gay.

    In the meantime, Palestinians continue to die because of lack of medical supplies that is directly attributed to the blockade in Gaza. But hey, just because people are dying because of a blockade, is that reason for a protest? Wake up guys.

    • I just updated the RCP Trump approval average which has NOT changed in 2 weeks…

    • Those who are being killed are not peaceful “protestors” but terrorists, who are trying to broach the borders of a sovereign country with the intent of killing people within it. What choice does any country acting in self-defense have?

  22. No – they are not peaceful. They are people who are angry that their family members have been treated as second class citizens for decades, if not generations or have been killed. The only path to peace is justice.

    • They are religious fanatics who wish to destroy Israel and to kill every Jew on Earth. These “protests” are because it is the 70th anniversary this week of Israel becoming a country. They were warned by leaflet beforehand exactly what would happen if they tried to send bombs across the border into Israel or to physically invade the country.

      How many dead Jews or kidnapped Jews should it take for them to “demonstrate their anger?” How many would be enough?

      Israel is completely within its right to kill any violent terrorist who seeks to enter the country by force as would be the case for any other country.

      • How many Arabs whet killed in protests in the last 24 hours?

        The thing is Trump has sided with Israel on this and wants American assistance to the Palesrians cut….
        While they aren’t blameless either
        Trump’s moves seem to do nothing to foster a try for a solution to a problem that has dragged on for decades
        In fact?
        His actions could put Americans st personal risk
        Typical Yrump
        Not thinking thru his actions
        The parties involved in this conflict needs LEASERSHIP and FAIRNESS in going forward
        Not political grandstanding….And set backs

        • None of this has anything to do with Trump.

          Those who are being killed are terrorists. It is completely appropriate for them to be killed before they kill innocents, which is what their intention are.

          If there are “good people” in “protests” who somehow got caught up in the annual NABKA Day demonstration, related to the destruction of Israel, which takes on special meaning on the 70th Birthday of Israel, then they should have known better to be caught up in that sort of violent crowd, just like any “good person” should have known better than to march with the white supremacist neo-Nazis in Charlottesville.

    • Peace is a wonderful concept and we all should pray for it. But that does not prevent us from recognizing the truth.

      Israel is motivated by its sheer survival.

      The enemies of Israel are motivated by religious fanaticism and hatred.

      As has been stated many times over many decades now, there will be peace when Palestinians decide they love their own children and do not wish for them to die as “martyrs” more than they hate Jewish children and want them dead.

      • Sheer survival against the Palestine ?

        Israel that has an Army, Air Force and Navy?

        That Israel is in NO physical danger of losing its state
        But they have and will mange to look like bad guys around the world with their heavy handed actions that Donald Trump just blessed….

        • No American President is gonna let Israel get the place they was in the 1967 War with Egypt…..
          The world would never be the same….
          That does not mean that The Arabs, like a America’s birth, shouldn’t have a place to exist..

          • Saying that Israel is no physical danger of losing its territory is an incredible statement. It is nothing short of a miracle that they have not over the 70 years and only by the sheer force and skill of their military have they won the wars over that period to stop their country from being destroyed.

            • There are a plethora of Arab countries with established Muslim governments. Palestinians are second class citizens in those countries too. None of those countries ever showed an interest in allowing Palestinians the right to develop a state of their own.

              In fact, Palestinians living in Israel have far more freedom, democracy, and human rights than they would in any Arab country.

              • Nobody that I know of supports “Muslim governments”. Citizens who are not Muslims should not be treated as second class citizens in those countries. Isn’t that obvious and non-controversial?

                • The countries in the region are Muslim governments. The elected leadership of the Palestinians continues to state that Israel must be destroyed and that every Jew on Earth must be killed.

                  But it’s more important to feel bad about 40-50 people who were thoroughly warned and then stopped before they could do their part to act on it.

            • I stand by my statement CG?

              Israel IS a nuclear bomb nation….
              The only one in the Middle East

              Everybody involved there KNOWS this and acts accordingly

              Your view of Israel’s vulunarbilty is off base….

              This whole thing now is about politics
              Played on NOTH sides

              Trump isn’t a politician
              This who thing is the fuck over his head

              He is doing his typical status quo

              Go HARD and see what shakes out that he can say he made happen…

              I don’t understand why u haven’t figured this out by now…

              • Really?
                The only thing that Trump REALLY thinks about is how scared he is of Mueller getting him out of his day job making money off the government while in office….

                • I understand the new numbers are he complains about Mueller almost a hundred times a day?

              • If you think that my view of Israel’s vulnerability is off base, I suggest you may not have spoken to enough Jews in your life.

              • I have plenty to criticize Trump on, including his embrace of anti-Semitic white nationalist figures, but I see nothing to criticize on his policy with Israel. He has proven to be a far better partner to our ally than Obama was.

                The bottom line is that every President, in both parties, has promised to move the American embassy to Jerusalem. (The two Democrats who won the popular vote and lost did too.) Trump just actually did it. At least he kept one promise.

                • I disagree again with you…
                  While Barack and Bibi never got along personally?
                  Obama as every other American President has?
                  Took care of Israel’s needs and wants….
                  Check back CG
                  On the way Obama handled the Iran issue with Bibi?
                  Several the Israeli military and intel people backed Obama AGAINT Netenyhu…

                  • I think both the people and leadership of Israel would disagree as it relates to Obama.

                    But he is gone and in the past now, just like Trump will be one day, and future American Presidents will be one day.

                    Nonetheless, Obama, as a candidate, did promise to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem, as did Hillary Clinton and every other Democrat nominee. So, I don’t know why Democrats are so upset about this. If it bothers you that much, you should have backed Bernie Sanders. You will maybe get another chance.

                    • In exchange for Israel stopping it’s illegal settlements policy and dealing with a two state peace agreement CG?

                      You don’t seem to be up on all this …

                    • Israel gave up plenty of territory not so long ago. They forcefully evicted Jewish families from their homes to turn the land over to Palestinians. I watched it live on cable tv and perhaps others did too and those concessions did absolutely nothing to stop jihadist violence against Israel. In fact, the violence got worse.

                      A two state solution is of course ideal, and that is what the overwhelming majority of Israel wants too, but the Palestinians don’t. They want one state, and one where all Jews have been driven into the sea.

        • Sheer survival not just against the violent Palestinians, but against every other Muslim country that borders them (such as Iran) that has been dedicated to their destruction for 70 years and who has leadership who peaches that every Jew on Earth must be killed.

          • That statement is false CG….
            As I have pointed out….
            Israel is actually forging ties with several other Arab countries in their attempt to put flack Iran…
            There is NO Arab country that would physically threaten Israel militarily ….

            • Iran is not an Arab country, true. They are still in the Middle East and are still actively trying to destroy Israel and wish to kill every Jew on Earth.

              Israel has fought and triumphed militarily over its Arab neighbors, who had sought to destroy Israel, in the not so distant past.

              • Ok
                I don’t accept your Iran view either
                Iran
                Like America seeks to control as much land as possible
                The basic religious tug of war has been going on for centuries
                The Middle East is THOUSANDS. Of miles from America
                Sooooo
                It is much earlier for Iran to
                Operate
                Like the birth of this nation?
                Violence is not off the table
                In simple terms?
                The Middle East has never stopped the wholly wars that other parts of the world have
                Judaism isn’t going anywhere CG….

                • America does not seek to control or take over land. That’s preposterous itself.

                  Thank you for what I am sure is your heartfelt belief that “Judaism is not going anywhere”, but frankly you don’t understand the issue or what the Jewish people have gone through without history or why the State of Israel is essential to the survival of the Jewish religion and people.

                  The only suggestion I could give you is I am sure there is some sort of Holocaust Museum in the NYC area near where you live and perhaps it might be an important learning experience for you to visit it.

                  • Woa?

                    You do NOT believe seeks to extend its influence and control outside its borders?????

                    Ok
                    Anyone here buy THAT ONE?

                    • You said “control land” as in taking over territory. And of course let me use this opportunity to say that Trump’s statements, supposedly as an anti-war voice, about how we should have “taken the oil” from Iraq was horrible.

                      But no, as has famously been said, the U.S. seeks no conquest or territory other than the land to bury our men and women who were killed in combat.

                    • Go back and read American History CG

                      Maybe DSD can lay out examples of America control campaigns

                  • Saying Israel wants to control land is NOT preposterous. Otherwise, Israel wouldn’t be creating new settlements or even blockading Gaza.

          • Even Iran in it’s move for more influence in the region does not engage Israel militarily ….

            • Until they do one day…

              And why don’t they? Perhaps because they know that Israel, especially as allied with the United States of America, would beat them into oblivion.

  23. Melania Trump has undergone kidney surgery.

    Harry Reid has undergone surgery for pancreatic cancer.

  24. The First Lady underwent kidney surgery today and is recovering…

    Ok
    I see CG Put this up already….

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