Open Thread for Decemeber 17……
So much trash talking by you guys…..I love it!……and new people starting to show up and post….keep it coming!…..Dogs like company…espicially PoliticalDogs……he, he, he….
Open Thread for December 17, 2009….
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Political News From Reuters…..- House heads toward close healthcare vote March 16, 2010WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congressional Democrats took the first step on Monday toward a quick final vote on a healthcare overhaul and House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi vowed to muster the votes needed to pass it.
- Sen Dodd boosts Fed in new financial reforms March 15, 2010WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Federal Reserve would take on a greatly expanded role in financial regulation under new legislation unveiled on Monday by a top Senate Democrat, in a push to move ahead with the regulatory reform that has been a top priority of President Barack Obama.
- Fed saves some regulatory authority in Dodd plan March 15, 2010WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Federal Reserve would retain some but not all of its oversight powers in the changed financial landscape envisioned by Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd in a plan unveiled on Monday.
- House heads toward close healthcare vote March 16, 2010
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Rasmussen Survey
Florida Senate 2010
General Election
Marco Rubio (R) 49 %
Kendrick Meek (D) 35 %
Others 4 %
Undecided 12 %
Charlie Crist (R) 42 %
Kendrick Meek (D) 36 %
Others 11 %
Undecided 11 %
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/florida/election_2010_florida_senate
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_state_toplines/florida/toplines_election_2010_florida_senate_december_14_2009
james,
So much for Meek can beat Rubio. HE CAN’T. I hope you get that now.
Ok….Daniel let us not forget that we are alomost a year out, right?…….it is surpising to see the Rubio/Meek numbers right now though…..Meek does have work to do…..but I’m betting on the healthcare bill getting pasted and the economy getting visibly better with lower unemploymnet numbers…I still think Meek can do it…..I never forget the NJ Gov and last Presidential primary races…..you shouldn’t either……
Quinnipiac Pennsylvania Governor Poll confirms Rasmussen. AG Corbett has the edge.
Pennsylvania Governor 2010
Democratic Primary
Dan Onorato 14 %
Joe Hoeffel 8 %
Jack Wagner 7 %
Chris Doherty 6 %
Tom Knox 5 %
Others 1 %
Undecided 59 %
Republican Primary
Tom Corbett 38 %
Jim Gerlach 12 %
Others 1 %
Undecided 47 %
2010 General Election
Tom Corbett (R) 45 %
Dan Onorato (D) 30 %
Others 1 %
Undecided 22 %
Tom Corbett (R) 43 %
Jack Wagner (D) 33 %
Others 1 %
Undecided 23 %
Tom Corbett (R) 46 %
Joe Hoeffel (D) 30 %
Others 1 %
Undecided 23 %
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1406&What=&strArea=;&strTime=0
morning guy…….interesting last night back in forth on Pakistan…..
the numbers will be posted up in a few…..
Well,
I have also some good News for you so you can cheer too:
Rasmussen Survey
Missouri Senate 2010
Robin Carnahan (D) 46 %
Roy Blunt (R) 44 %
Others 4 %
Undecided 6 %
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/missouri/election_2010_missouri_senate
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/missouri/toplines/toplines_2010_missouri_senate_december_15_2009
Job Approvals
Obama 47 / 53
Governor Nixon 63 / 33
Notes:
Once again RAS backs up my Theory that Democrats running better in Open Seats than their Incumbent Senators.
Over the year I thought Rob Portman would be the worst Candidate the GOP had selected.
I trend to change it to Roy Blunt. This guy is a complete disaster. Blunt has never led in ANY PUBLIC POLL put forward in 2009.
Currently it also sounds like it doesn’t matter how bad the Political Climate is for Dems Carnahan always comes out on top. I guess it happens when you select a Candidate Voters absolutely don’t like in the Show-Me-State. I’m kicking myself not be more vocal about a Steelman Candidacy. Sarah Steelman in my view would be in the same Situation Rubio is now in Florida.
Cross-posted at P1.
listen Rubio is the flavor of the day right now…..if he stays to the right he’ll flame out just like Palin…you must come back to the middle to win elections….even you know that…I’m counting on Rubio getting so far to the right that Meek becomes the most palatable choice for indie’s AND moderate GOPer’s…..there are a lot of them still out there and they are going to have to vote for democrats when they go in the booth…..remember….. I pointed this out my friend…..
james,
If you post the Florida Numbers you should post the Missouri Numbers too.
It’s rare these Days seeing Democrats having good polling Numbers.
I think you gave me a third state to do…didn’t you?… yea Miz…..right?
Yep, it was Missouri.
this place is busy this morning…….
More Americans than anticipated filed first-time claims for unemployment benefits last week, a reminder that the labor market will take time to strengthen and may weigh on the economic recovery.
Initial jobless claims rose by 7,000 to 480,000 in the week ended Dec. 12, from a revised 473,000 the prior week, Labor Department figures showed today in Washington. The number of people receiving unemployment insurance was little changed in the prior week, while those getting extended payments increased.
Federal Reserve policy makers yesterday said weakness in the labor market is restraining consumer spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of the world’s largest economy. Concerns over the lack of jobs prompted the central bank yesterday to reiterate a pledge to keep the benchmark interest rate low for an “extended period.”
thanks TPL for the shout out…I was going to post up the Fed’s keeping the rates low….now I’ll add the unemployment angle…..
Health Care Bill is DEAD in the Senate. Ben Nelson (D-NE) is a NO.
you don’t really believe that do you?
I do believe it.
Nelson & Sanders are NO as of today. If this holds it’s the End of ObamaCare.
BTW,
Senator Jim Demint (R-SC) will force a Christmas Eve Cloture Vote:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/72813-demint-promises-to-delay-healthcare-and-force-christmas-eve-vote
Nelson is the only holdout right now…and he’s on the fence about the abortion issue which isn’t going to make it anyways….
THE BILL WILL PASS!
President Obama speaks proudly of his childhood in Hawaii, so we wonder what the state’s voters think of his support for a bill that would redistribute its wealth based on race. That’s what would happen under the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act, which Congress is trying to sneak through in its final days this year.
Sponsored by Senator Daniel Akaka, the bill would transfer a percentage of public-owned lands to a native Hawaiian government within the state of Hawaii. The legislation would collect some 400,000 ethnic Hawaiians scattered across the country into a newly affiliated tribe, eventually endowed with the powers of a sovereign state, including freedom from state taxes and regulations and separate police power.
Proponents say the plan would duplicate the legal scenario set up for Native Americans, but the Akaka bill carves out new territory. Unlike Indian tribes made up of tightly knit populations that have lived together continuously, participation in the new group would be available to nearly anyone able to trace their roots back to a Native Hawaiian ancestor, no matter where they now reside. U.S. Civil Rights Commission member Gail Heriot told Congress in June that, “If ethnic Hawaiians can be accorded tribal status, why not Chicanos in the Southwest? Or Cajuns in Louisiana?”
Under the Akaka bill, someone will have to divine exactly who qualifies as a Native Hawaiian. In the bill’s current version, the determination would be handled by a nine member commission staffed by experts in native Hawaiian genealogy. That, says the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, amounts to racial discrimination and would “subdivide the American People into discrete subgroups accorded varying degrees of privilege.”
The Supreme Court has already ruled that elections based on a blood quota violate the Fifteenth Amendment’s ban on restricting voting along racial lines. In its 2000 decision in Rice v. Cayetano, the Court held that the Office of Hawaiian Affairs could not hold elections limited to ethnic Hawaiians. “Ancestry can be a proxy for race,” the court wrote, “and is that proxy here.”
Morning james,
Some rare good News for Democrats coming out of the “Keystone State”
New Quinnipiac University Pennsylvania Poll
2010 Senate Race
Democratic Primary
Arlen Specter 53 %
Joe Sestak 30 %
Others 1 %
Undecided 15 %
General Election Match-Ups
Arlen Specter (D) 44 %
Patrick Toomey (R) 44 %
Others 1 %
Undecided 11 %
Patrick Toomey (R) 40 %
Joseph Sestak (D) 35 %
Others 1 %
Undecided 22 %
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1407&What=&strArea=;&strTime=0
Also, 2 more Rasmussen Poll showing good and bad News for Democrats.
Rasmussen Survey
Illinois Governor 2010
Patrick Quinn (D) 41 %
Andy McKenna (R) 33 %
Others 11 %
Undecided 15 %
Patrick Quinn (D) 45 %
Bill Brady (R) 30 %
Others 13 %
Undecided 13 %
Patrick Quinn (D) 41 %
Kirk Dillard (R) 30 %
Others 10 %
Undecided 19 %
Daniel Hynes (D) 43 %
Andy McKenna (R) 30 %
Others 5 %
Undecided 21 %
Daniel Hynes (D) 46 %
Bill Brady (R) 27 %
Others 8 %
Undecided 19 %
Daniel Hynes (D) 42 %
Kirk Dillard (R) 29 %
Others 8 %
Undecided 21 %
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/illinois/election_2010_illinois_governor
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/illinois/toplines/toplines_2010_illinois_governor_december_14_2009
Yo Daniel….what’s wrong for dem’s here?…..Pat Quinn is cruising along…….
I said there were 2 Rasmussen Polls: One good one (IL-GOV) and one bad one (MI-GOV). Do you get it now what I meant.
Now here are the bad News for Democrats.
Rasmussen Survey
Michigan Governor 2010
Mike Cox (R) 39 %
John Cherry (D) 34 %
Others 9 %
Undecided 17 %
Peter Hoekstra (R) 46 %
John Cherry (D) 32 %
Others 6 %
Undecided 16 %
Mike Bouchard (R) 42 %
John Cherry (D) 32 %
Others 6 %
Undecided 20 %
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/michigan/election_2010_michigan_governor
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/michigan/toplines/toplines_michigan_governor_december_16_2009
the election is in next November, right?…….Cherry has time to catch up……
The bad Poll I meant was the Michigan One and I tell you what I’m gonna make a BOLD MOVE.
I’m calling this right out of the Box that Michigan will go Republican. Cherry will not win this unless he drops out and lets State House Speaker Andy Dillon run.
At the same time I’m gonna call Minnesota for the Dems unless fmr. Sen. Norm Coleman jumps in.
I called this a while ago…the trend started right after the summer….I’ll post this up later…..
…..well speaking of Minnesota……Pawlenty?????….are people going to forget the Franken caper?
james,
Regarding Minnesota:
The GOP does not have an obvious Candidate. For the Dems both fmr. Sen. Mark Dayton (D) and Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak (D) are running AND by all Imagination either of those 2 will be the next Governor of MN unless Norm Coleman (R) runs.
NOT…. NORMAN COLEMAN??????????
Daniel…that’s from bad to worst!!!!!!
james,
Anyways Cherry is TOAST in Michigan.
BTW you’ve e-Mail.
I already hit you back…….
re: your 11:53 Daniel…Ok…I understand…..
You can post the PA, MI, and IL Polls if you want to.
will do…..
Nate was messing with you, huh?
I just hope that Ben Nelson (D-NE) sees the light and votes against these Health Care Votes.
I’m sure they will either get him…or turn someone else…too much is riding on this……
maybe they’ll make him pay for HIS healthcare out of pocket, do an amendment….he’s an old timer, right?
NE Governor Dave Heineman (R) has written Nelson a letter urging him to vote against.
If Nelson votes for it he is a DEAD MAN WALKING.
Do not forget that Nelson is up for Reelection in 2012 AND Heineman could challenge him then without giving up his Governor Seat.
Nelson is in a delicate Situation.
james,
Health Care Schedule (crossposted at P1)
NYT: The Votes Before THE Vote [Robert Costa]
From the New York Times:
Absent any unexpected quirks, Mr. Reid needs to hold five votes before he can get to a final, simple-majority vote on the health care legislation:
• 1 a.m. MONDAY – To end debate on “a manager’s package” that includes all the latest changes to the bill. 60 votes required.
• 7 a.m. TUESDAY – To approve the manager’s package. Simple majority required.
• Also TUESDAY – To end debate on Mr. Reid’s original health care proposal, as amended by the manager’s package. 60 votes required.
• 1 p.m. WEDNESDAY – To approve Mr. Reid’s original proposal. Simple majority required.
• Also WEDNESDAY – To end debate on the finalized health care legislation. 60 votes required.
• 7 p.m. THURSDAY, Christmas Eve (or anytime after the prior vote if all senators agree) – To approve the final bill. Simple majority required.
If Reid does get 60 on the Managers Amendment this thing goes through I believe.
it will be done…..maybe even as written…..THERE WILL BE A BILL…..
thanks …I’ll post that up also….I’ve got to be running around with the Mrs……in a few…..
agreed……